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Looks like Qt is over.

> The Qt Company has followed up on its plan to make long-term support releases commercial-only by closing the source for 5.15 today, earning protests from open-source contributors who say that the 6.0 release, which remains open, is not yet usable.

soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid

@trickydick Many developers have read the writing on the wall and shunned Qt for a while, if I understand correctly. I never learned to use it myself.

I want to learn desktop GUI forms this year. Maybe Tk because it's so small.

@progo Crazy. It seems like if Qt closed off the source, KDE can fork it and the fork will be BSD, but that's going to be a maintenance nightmare. Man, fuck Trolltech
@djsumdog @progo don't recall how but somehow kde bullied trolltech in to gpl support and they just kinda kept it around for a while.

the gpl -> lgpl move was under nokia, who's primary income was elsewhere so this did not affect them very much.

now that qt is divested from nokia they actually do have to make a profit from selling licenses once again. :blobcathissing:

That was why so many people support GTK+.
I still use GTK+ 2 but I hate GTK+ 3 and GTK 4.
Time to migrate to SDL I guess.
@icedquinn @djsumdog @progo

@wzqtparor @djsumdog @progo i still need to get around to making gtk bindings. some time after i bother making the torture test for my message framework. :gummyoh:
@wzqtparor @icedquinn @djsumdog @progo sadly gtk has it's own problems, like half-baked fractional scaling and much of the api decisions dictated by the wants of the GNOME project.

There's like no good GUI toolkit for Linux now.

@progo
Doesn't seem like it's a huge deal, everyone has the right to stop developing something and/or make a repo private.

If there are significant outside developers, they can just fork 5.15 into LibreQT and drop the CLA.

If there aren't, well, then I guess it's a good thing trolltech does what they do because without them there would be no QT.

@cjd @progo

From a qt developer stance, you are right. The best written argument I've seen on here actually.

But from a libre user perspective, one that doesn't care which framework he is using, many would rather see a project die than go closed-source

@progo I know that it would be a big risk to install KDE/Qt on my computer as I expected exactly this to happen.I only didn't expect it to happen two weeks after installing it already 😲 Let's see if KDE will make a open source fork.Well,they have to,otherwise KDE would be dead.

@nipos @progo AFAIU they have a contract in place just for that.

The key question's tho if they will be _able_ to do it because KDE devs are probably already overburdened, the whole of Qt could prove too hard.

On the flip side non-KDE users would gravitate towards the FOSS option so this may prove beneficial for KDE and suicidal for TrollTech.

@cadadr @progo The contract will begin to work if the Qt Company hasn't released a open source version of Qt for more than a year.But they did release a new version,Qt6,it's just not ready for productive use yet as it lacks many features.

@progo Oh, damnation. I get to switch to GTK3 now.
@progo qt wasn't good pal of free software since the beginning

@progo holy shit WHAT

Honestly, if this is what I think it is, it could actually be a good thing. I prefer qt slightly, but if it's out of the mix then fragmentation will no longer be a problem.

Haven't read the article yet though

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