Ben and Jerry's big brain socioeconomics club has... produced.
@ChristiJunior Don't be rayciss! It isn't if you've got the right skin privilege.
@jeremiah I will applaud when both Ben and Jerry's homes burn down. Preferably with them still inside. No need to be able to say "I told ya" to them.
@PorkCow Conflating the actions of the FBI and the CIA is like putting meth and aspirin in the same category.
I see the "taxation is theft" argument as a proxy for, "I don't know how to stand up for myself, let alone organize with others."
I've heard it since I can remember out of lots of people, but I've never once seen any effort to resisting, or organized resistance against taxation unless you count "sovereign citizens" or shady accountants.
I recommend the latter.
@PorkCow to be fair, I don't think the FBI's existence is justified, and the CIA... that's tough.
I think that we need intel, and in some cases, ops, and those need secrecy, but the potential for abuse (and the demonstrable history of abuse) make this a severely hot potato. No good answers here, just a few naive ideas.
@PorkCow that's not what the police are for. Their primary purpose is protecting property and maintaining order. All other functions are modern and inferior compared to those.
As to these insane progressive officials... well, it takes a certain kind of a person to think of a city as a stable, good idea in the long-term.
Such people are always wrong in the long-term, and often the short term -- residents, cops, etc. Can't fix historical and mathematical illiteracy... but you can charge it rent!
The high philosophical notions (especially of the anarchist type) with the "other time in history" escape hatch allows neverneverland's cartoon physics when it comes to "what ifs."
Metaphorically, to me, it's like watching footage of Somalia and Minneapolis while listening to someone drone on about bitcoin and the non-aggression principle.
Other than that, a world without coercion and taxation is a fantasy I share.
How do we get from here to a world free of the FBI, CIA, and all taxation related to constitutionally unsupportable operations -- standing army, etc -- in current year, in current circumstances, with current currents in the world?
How do we do that with a world full of retards and globally integrated food supply chains?
(That's why I'm pragmatic about these things.)
@leyonhjelm @PorkCow in other words, you don't see a pragmatic route from a to b. collapse, revolution is required to put this philosophical high ground? (Correct me if I'm misunderstanding your assertion...)
The Jeffersonian ideal after collapse-reset would be where you'd want to be in current world, current year, etc?
To the revolutionary, the question I have is: isn't now the moment to organize, if not begin the revolution... don't all the armchair revolutionaries recognize their numbers? Isn't this the time to press their demands when the goonerment is on the ropes?
... and if not, when? are we waiting for a sign in the stars? The right natural disaster?
Under what circumstances will this philosophizing be practice?
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